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for the holidays and left for hawaii without a deal in place. with nine days left now, is it too late? remember the house budget committee marcia blackburn joins us now. congressman thank you for joining us. >> sure. >> before we get underway, i would love to play for you. play for you right now the president's words just before he departed on his hawaii vacation. here he is. >> so as we leave town for a few days to be with our families for the holidays, i hope it gives everybody some perspective. everybody can cool off. everybody can drink some eggnog and have some christmas cookies and sing some christmas carols and enjoy the company of loved ones. >> and then, congressman, just after he said that senator jeff sessions of alabama said this, and i shall quote, president obama today gave another speech about the fiscal cliff, no plan, nothing that can be scored or analyzed, just another speech. if president obama wishes to avoid the fiscal cliff then he with all of the power and influence he holds as the leader of this nation must submit to congress in legislative form a plan that he believes c
hawaii tonight to come back to d.c. let's speak to a republican from florida. congresswoman, you played a big role in getting a marine out of a nightmarish prison in mexico and back to his family for christmas. first, i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff and what's happening in the next couple of days. first, do you think it's possible we'll get anything other than a band-aid between now and six days from now when the triggers kick in? >> i'm very optimistic if all of us pull our weight and do some serious conversations we'll have a bipartisan solution, because nobody wants to go over this fiscal cliff. it will damage our economy. it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's
to hawaii, president obama said he met individually with leaders of the house and senate, asking them to work toward a package that prevents a tax hike on middle class americans. >> this is something within our capacity to solve. it doesn't take that much work. we just have to do the right thing. so call me a hopeless optimist, but i still think we can get it done. >> earlier in the day, speaker boehner held a news conference. a vote on his so-called plan "b" was scrapped thursday night when it became clear it did not have enough support among house republicans to secure passage. >> a situation where because of the political divide in the country, because of the divide here in washington, trying to bridge these differences has been difficult. if it were easy, i'll guarantee you this would have been done decades before. >> joining me now, congressional reporter for "the washington post," ed o'keefe. good to see you. >> good to see you too. any kind of realistic timetable that this will be done before january 1st? >> what the president is most concerned about now, making sure unemployme
with the president and joins us from hawaii. >> they can still talk, right? true. but the people who matter are not. perhaps the lines of xhoukz are open between the white house and senate democrats. but the white house at this point is not in discussion with not only speaker john boehner but the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell and perhaps because of that, you have some of that pessimism of senator liberman being shared by republicans. >> when i listen to the president, i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes and sees a political victory at the bottom of the cliff. gets additional tax revenue, gets to cut the military which democrats have been calling for for years and blame republicans for it. >> now, all eyes are now on the senate, which will reconvene on thursday. seen as likely that president obama will head back to washington from hawaii here. senate minority leader harry reid has the task of trying to conjure up something that might be able to pass the house in addition to the senate publicly. the white house is saying they want tax rates to remain i
. >> president obama spent christmas day visiting with troops in hawaii. >> while back in washington uncertainty about the looming fiscal cliff continues. there has been to communication between republicans and democrats about how to avoid going over the cliff. before the christmas break, speaker john boehner was unable to get enough support from respects to pass his plan and help said it was up to the white house and the senate to avert the cliff. so now harry reid is believed to be crafting a plan of his own. it's expected to extend bush-era tax cuts. it would also include short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. it would also patch up the alternative minimum tax that will hit even more middle class families and schedule a drop off for doctors. >> if republicans do give in and support the deal being put together by harry reid that deal is expected to be far less favorable than the potential deal they had been working on with president obama. >> republican strategist, frank luntz has been talking with voters, wh
very good so far. we know that the president obama, on the way back from hawaii, worked the phones a bit, talking to the top four congressional leaders. speaker boehner, nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and harry reid. earlier today, the senate majority leader sounded frustrated with the republicans in congress. >> nothing can move forward unless speaker boehner and mitch mcconnell are willing to come up with a bipartisan plan to participate. speaker boehner is unwilling to negotiate. we have not heard a word since neither mcconnell. nothing has happened. >> i should note that senator reid was due for a news conference later this afternoon. that has since been canceled. perhaps the senate majority leader has decided to do his talking behind closed doors and hammer out a deal. greg: filled with metaphors, no doubt. what a republican saying about the status of the fiscal cliff negotiations? reporter: they have been pretty quiet so far. we know the speaker of the house and the republican leadership team in the house is due for a conference call with members that are still back in their
the fiscal cliff. happy new year. here's what you might have missed. president obama left hawaii early to get back to washington today. the senate is also coming back from christmas vacation today to work on a deal. now, sources tell us majority leader harry reid will push a scaled-back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out on friday, which moved the tax hike needle to $400,000. no word yet on when the house of representatives might come back, but democrats say the only hope we have of something getting through the house, the senate and the white house may be a very last-minute deal. cnn radio's lisa is following developments on capitol hill right now. the ball is in senate majority leader harry reid's court it would seem right now, lisa. >> that's right. harry reid and the senate seem to be the only game in town right now with the senate returning today. we also know from sources, ali, that over this christmas break there were no conversations between the president and top-level republicans. sources from both parties are telling us they are watching the senate, es
state of hawaii. he was a world war ii medal of honor winner who lost an arm to a german hand grenade in italy. he became the first japanese american in congress and served 50 years in the u.s. senate. his death was announced by harry reid. >> the kindness that he has shown me for me time here in the senate has been something i will cherish always. a man who has lived and breathed the senate. he was that patriot. >> very kind words. president obama also a native of hawaii tweeted aloha yesterday. he died yesterday at 88 years old. >>> there is progress in talks on the fiscal cliff, but major sticking points still remain with just two weeks to go. a top republican says there is disagreement over spending cuts versus new taxes and until that could be worked out, there won't be any talks about the specific details. and wall street closed higher over signs of the talks. the dow jones rose 100 points for its biggest gain of the month. early markets overseas also higher because of capitol hill optimism. and a bounce back in china's economy. >>> a holiday miracle for drivers as plunging gas
today. the president is pulling the plug on his trip to hawaii to tend to urgent matters in washington. with tax hikes looming in less than a week, he's scheduled to return to the white house tomorrow, just as a deadlocked congress reconvenes days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. you're just six days from feeling this. now, first hit is coming on january 1st when your take home pay will drop by 2% because of a scheduled hike in the social security payroll tax. that's just the start. income taxes are set to climb too. and you'll notice that when employer gets to around the adjusted withholding, the government spending cuts, those are also scheduled for january 1st and bound to slow the economy and some argue they'll weaken the military. congress has seen this coming, but an effort to limit the damage failed last week. republican house speaker john boehner could not persuade enough members of his party to let tax rates rise on incomes over a million dollars while sparing everyone else. dana bash is our senior congressional correspondent. dana, this time tomorrow, the president is sup
can't imagine their consciences. >> reporter: of course president obama has left hawaii. he is heading back to washington from his family vacation. we learned from the white house that the president had made calls to the top four congressional leaders mcconnell and boehner on the republican side, pelosi and reid on the democratic side. we'll see what the president has in mind when he touches down back in washington a little later this morning, harris. harris: mike you mentioned it. i'm mentioning it too. it is coming into the newsroom from senator mcconnell's spokesperson and just wondering what the republicans say they want. they want to review legislation and make decisions how best to proceed. they're waiting for now the white house to make the next move. >> reporter: there is definitely a game of chicken going on where the senate democrats are saying, well we need to know from mcconnell what he is willing to do. mcconnell is saying i will not rubberstamp a plan i haven't seen so you need to lay out a plan. we know from speaker boehner's spokesman he is in ohio. he will let us know
's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> the president heading back to d.c. from hawaii to try to keep america from going over the fiscal cliff. as the house and senate reconvene tomorrow. the clock is ticking. six days until the deadline. the way things work in washington, can they actually get something done before the end of the year? brianna keilar, what is the latest on this? >> hi, there, drew. president obama will be heading home from hawaii tonight, logical time arri arriving in d.c. thursday morning when the senate will be reconvenin reconvening, and the senate, all eyes on now, that we look for the last-ditch effort to avoid the fiscal cliff. even though the president is returning on thursday, we may not see the senate roll out its bill to deal with the fiscal cliff. perhaps for a couple of days. this is entirely possible we've learned from sources as senate majority leader harry reid works to get republican support in the senate, which he will need if he's going to pass a bill. and so we're still waiting to see exactly what it will look like that the white house wants for th
article and we want to show you -- according to one article, the nominee has flown back from hawaii with the president on air force one. most of the papers are filled with articles about the fiscal cliff issue. joining us now is merideth shiner of cq roll call. ms. shiner. guest: ms. shiner seem so formal. we're having a recession in between christmas and new year's. that has not happened since the 1970's. maybe we should play disco or maybe they should just finished their work so they can stop making terrible jokes. i think you are a point to see some push in the next few days to try to get some sort of small deal done. you have to remember and your viewers will notice, because they are fans of the legislative process, anything that gets done, it has to get done very quickly in order for there to be time before new year's for it to be approved and signed into law. today's the 27th. the senate comes back in session today, the house is in pro-forma so it probably will not do any work. you only have a few days left for lawmakers to make a deal -- ink a deal. the president took off las
left hawaii. he left last night, arriving in d.c. early this morning. the senate is also coming back from its christmas vacation to work on a deal today. sources tell us majority leader harry reid will be pushing a scaled back version of the fiscal cliff package that president obama laid out last week. it moved the tax hike needle to $400,000 per household. no word yet on when the house might come back with time ticking away. democrats are hoping that a scaled back plan could get through the house, senate and white house before that big ball drops on 2013. that would be sometime on december 30th or even on new years eve. we want to bring in jonathan allen. he's a senior national correspondent for politico. the top headline on politico is fiscal cliff deal increasingly unlikely. i think a lot of people are feeling that pessimism right now. what are you hearing? >> well, i think what you've got here, alena, is a nash equilibrium to borrow from economic theory and game theory. each of the players believe they are pursuing their optimal strategies given the strategies of the other player
to hawaii. where he said look, we have to scale back expectations. basically just extend middle class tax cuts. don't worry about the rates for everyone else. secondly extend unememployment insurance for about two million people who will be losing it a few days from now at the end of the year. finally he refer to possibility of smaller bit ever spending cuts. not major entitlement rerecall to. not major cuts to medicare like had been on the table in so-called plan a, the $4 trillion debt deal he and john boehner had been talking about for weeks. so we might see a small bit of spending cuts just to stave off the sequester, the massive amount of spending cuts that will kick in at the beginning of the year to harm the pentagon and other agencies. if they are getting anything, there are low expectations but if they get anything it will be a very small deal, something much smaller than they have been talking about for weeks, jon. jon: there aren't too many people these meetings. so a little hard to get an assessment, what is your idea, what is your best, yeah, assessment i guess how things are
morning. >> reporter: well, good morning, rebecca. the president boarded air force one in hawaii early this morning and headed back to washington to deal with the so-called fiscal cliff. with just five days until the combination of automatic tax increases and spending cuts that could send the economy back into recession, the president wants congress to take the lead in getting the job done. the senate convenes later today and majority leader harry reid has told members to be prepared to work on fiscal cliff issues through the weekend. reid is working on his own plan to get members to come together before the end-of-the-year deadline. that plan would likely include letting the bush tax cuts expire for households making more than $250,000 a year and short-term spending cuts instead of the massive cuts that would occur if there is no deal. after a wednesday conference call, house republican leaders issued a statement saying they're waiting for the democratic-controlled senate to act. adding to an already volatile situation, treasury secretary tim geithner in a lette
to hawaii for the holidays. basically resetting the discussion for income rates at the threshold he originally wanted, $250,000 for couples. why that's important is because in previous conversations with speaker boehner, the president had moved off that number to something more friendly to the republican party, putting the number at about $400,000 and people thought that's where conversations would start today. democrats say, no, that's not the case because the speaker didn't have the membership vote on the $250,000 threshold. so this is about leverage, it's about negotiation. it's democrats going in to the meeting stronger they feel than what they perceive to be speaker boehner's position. republicans today talking about to me about various options they see and lots of conversations going on and certainly a spirit of willingness to get something done. can it get done? can it get done practically? those are the hard questions. >> yeah. after this 3:00 meeting, kelly o., will there be a document, a plan, a piece of legislation that will be carried from pennsylvania avenue to capitol
. as you were saying he's en route from hawaii to washington for any last-minute fiscal cliff talks. he left his wife and two daughters in hawaii when he left last night hawaii time. he has been in touch with harry reid's office over the holidays and we did get a scheduled update that the vice president will be here at the white house today for meetings. at this point not a lot of encouraging signs coming out of the white house or capitol hill that a fiscal cliff deal is in sight. patti ann: are there any other meetings set with house republicans? >> reporter: nothing yet, although that can change. we do know that house republican speaker john boehner is still in his home state of ohio. his spokesman says he'll update if there are any travel changes, meaning he'll let us know if the speaker decides to come become to washington for any kind of meetings. house republicans say they passed the stopgap measure extending all existing tax cuts and are pressing the senate to approve it. in a statement yesterday the house g.o.p. leadership said quote the lines of communication remain open and we
was just named the next senator from hawaii. back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." president obama's choice for secretary of state john kerry is expected to sail through his confirmation process, but the president has yet to name his pick for the secretary of defense. that may be because the candidate who is reportedly the white house's top choice chuck hagel could be a powder keg. he's been attacked by neocons. engaging groups like hamas and statements he's said of the israeli lobby in washington. today in the washington post a group of former security advisers all defended hagel saying he is quote, a many of unshankable integrity. far more telling comments over the weekend from influential senators. lindsay graham and the retiring joseph lieberman are hawkish on the national defense and both show trepidation about hagel. here they are. >> a lot of republicans are going to ask him hard questions and i don't think he's going to get many republican votes. i like chuck, but frankly all of them are out of the mainstream and well to the left of the president. i think it'll be a c
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? in hawaii, they mentioned he is lazy because he is from hawaii. i am wondering if he spends all his time campaigning. host: it sounds like he might spend time there because it is warmer than washington, d.c. caller: he does not work that much. when he was in chicago in the senate, in the illinois senate, he did not work that hard. he was only marked present. i did not believe that. now i see the way he operates. he does not seem to be doing his job. that is why he spent $6 trillion, more than any of the president. i am concerned about where he is going and why he does not lead. he gives it up to other people. i do not want to be mean about it. i am very concerned as a citizen on why should be paying more in taxes because he does not want to get into the fight. guest: president's work very hard. president obama worked tremendously hard. george w. bush worked tremendously hard. it is one of the most difficult job there is. presidents work round-the-clock. it is not accurate to say they are not governing when they are campaigning. it is more accurate to say governing and campaigning come ne
. cutting his vacation in hawaii sure to tackle the fiscal cliff. reports calling the possibility of a deal before the new year "virtually impossible." let's bring in former press secretary to al gore and we also have brad blakeman. they are both joining us from washington, d.c. "the house has already passed legislation to avoid the fiscal cliff, but senate democrats have not." what do you make of that feedback they are having what amounts to a staring contest right now. it is legislation that would keep tax cuts for those making under $250,000 a year. the house does not have any plans to come back before january 1. liz: the house does have a bill that would not hurt small businesses and the job creators in this country. for some reason they seem to be avoiding that very important issue for the u.s. economy. >> what i make of it is, it all goes back to the leadership of the president. the president created this crisis. remember, he was the one who had a bipartisan commission on the debt. they came back with their proposals. two years ago, the president could have avoided all of this by havi
, of course, like what can we do about it? right now, the president makes his way back from hawaii today and tonight. the house, we don't know when they are back. boehner is stuck in a blizzard in butler county ohio and don't know when he'll be back. more details from the survey which is interesting. 68% of those polled said negotiators should compromise and 22% said stick to your principles. interesting people are weighing in on this and starting to think about this as we approach the deadline. >> the policies are fascinating, democratic handling and waning on the republican negotiators. >> we knew the republicans would be blamed for the cliff. that's been clear. poll after poll shows that. >> holidays are over. we've gotten through that and now we pay attention to what's going on, and, man, it's ugly. >> i have my husband's birthday to get through. the beat goes on. >> christmas babies get gypped. i feel bad. >> yeah. >> what are you talking about tonight? >> about this, grover norquist to talk about it. >> love him. >> he's got to be annoyeded. >> on where is the commonground. >> than
am flying back from hawaii and see if i can bring them back together. they are far apart as they have been. >> kelly: why are they having the meeting? because of the talk and rhetoric is ramping up and the agreement is going down. i mean, for example, senate majority leader harry reid is name calling and calling john boehner a dictator . this is what he had to say. >> the american people i don't think the house representative is operating without the house of representative. it is being operated with a dictatorship of the speaker not allowing the vast majority of the house and representatives to get what they want. >> that sounds ridiculous f. it was a dictatorship boehner would have gotten that vote and he couldn' get the vote. what we should do honestly guys, is swan dive ov the fiscal cliff. let president obama own the fiscal cliff. it should be called the obama cliff. >> julia: people know how much they would have to pay. folks on the man on the street interviews . people are looking at the numbers going what. >> kelly: in today's meeting should be a crucial meet the white house s
restrictions. host: folks will want to know what those states are. guest: new hampshire, wyoming, and hawaii. host: a parent from maryland this morning. you are on with francisco negron of the national school boards association. caller: i have a child that is bipolar. host: go ahead. caller: i have two children with bipolar. one was -- hello? i have two children with bipolar. i used to try to get some help for them. i call the police on my teenager. he had two knives. the police just talk to him and left. i found the knives in their coat pockets going to school and nobody did anything. host: if you want to talk with police interaction with school boards in these situations. guest: the caller raises an interesting point. parents are often the first line of intervention. students in columbine were isolated. parents did not know what was happening. it is important for parents to serve as the eyes and ears for the community. i am glad the caller did what she thought was right. it is unfortunate it didn't work out the way she anticipated. i think that is important. school is doing the right thing
for the call. i am sure if the present is watching our program. guest: he is in hawaii. host: what you think about his question? guest: you are expressing the sentiment of a lot of people. i am and republican. i talked to a lot of employers in this country. they say, we are 10 or 11 days away from the start of the a. we do not know what taxes are going to look like. we do not know what the pay will tax, the dividend tax. how do you plan? this is a banana republic stuff. it is insane that we do not know what our tax system will be like in 10 days. i am as frustrated as a lot of guilt colors. host: an article with the headline, on the brain of a cliff. they lie that the government reported strong -- -- brink of a cliff. they write that the government reported strong economic numbers, providing critical support for additional spending. it gives rise to hopes that the economy is gaining enough momentum to enjoy a robust recovery in 2013. the housing market is enjoying a broad rebound and other signs are pointing up. if these signs show that the economy is moving forward and rolling, what is the
out here to hawaii for the holidays. he and the first lady went to visit some troops at a u.s. marine base here, and he had a very simple, direct message. take a listen. >> so we know that it's not easy, but what we also want you to know is that you have the entire country behind you, and all of us understand that we would be nowhere without the extraordinary service that you guys provide. >> reporter: now, after the red eye flight tonight the president will be landing in the washington area early thursday, likely meeting with congressional leaders at some point later this week into the weekend. interesting, after a long flight like that, he'll probably need some coffee. starbucks revealing it's going to be having its employees to write "come together" on their coffee cups in their washington, d.c. shops trying to inspire folks in both parties to work out differences. we'll see whether or not this has any influence on both sides. gregg: i really didn't hear anything you said because i was looking agent -- at the beautiful diamondhead in the background. [laughter] tell our viewers what
ever have your mustache slashed. >> never trust a black man unless he's born in hawaii without a mustache. >> gene robinson, do you concur? >> is any mustache safe in the world these days? i'm scared. i'm scared. >> i don't think it is. well, congressman, how are we doing in this effort to avoid the fiscal cliff? do you think it may -- we're encouraged around here at least that the president and john boehner are going to be talking face to face. >> are we naive? >> a little bit. >> sad without a second's hesitation. >> wow! >> look, it's a simple deal, but the circumstances are not simple. and i think we're going to get a deal, on my optimistic side, we're going to get a deal. my pessimistic side is it may be later. we may do something between now and january 1st, but there is no way we're going to do what needs to be done between now and december 31st. >> is that a good thing in terms of doing the longer term? >> we've got to deal with the payroll tax, or many americans are going to end up losing about $1,000 to $1,500 a year out of their checks. we've got to figure out how to
. the president can step up and say hey, i don't want to go over the cliff. harry reid can come back from hawaii and actually go back to work. we can make that happen. we don't have to raise tacks on anyone. but what we know what we have to do is actually focus on the problem. and i think most americans are starting to understand, washington is trying to convince us that they're not taxing enough. everybody knows $1.3 trillion deficit is not a tax problem. >> congressman, again, i agree with you, but we also live, if you see "lincoln" or see what's happened over the past 200 years, we live in a divided government. that's our constitutional republic. and there are going to be tax increases. and if you do nothing, there are going to be tax increases on january the 1st. wouldn't you rather shape it than just let taxes go for everybody on january the 1st? >> that's a great question for december 31st. and that might happen. but again, where are the spending reductions? where are the entitlement reforms out of harry reid and the president of the yaunited states? i disagrees with boehner caving on taxe
. tribute speeches continue to the late senator daniel inouye of hawaii who died yesterday at the age of 88. and related to that today, as well, senator pat leahy was sworn in as the new president pro tempore of the united states senate. that happened earlier today. vice president biden administering the oath. >> well, good afternoon, everyone. the entire congress is united and condemning the violence in newtown, and on the need to enforce our laws. as we continue to learn the facts, congress will examine whether there is an appropriate and constitutional response that would better protect our citizens. with regard to the year end tax issue, i would remind everyone that in the summer of 2010 senator schumer said, quote, first i don't know a single one of my colleagues who wouldn't prefer to do tax breaks for people up to $1 million. it's my understanding that that is essentially the proposal that the house of representatives is likely to send over to us later in the week. >> well, i think the other thing that's getting lost in the whole debate about the fiscal cliff is where are the savings
inouye, and that service will take place in hawaii and it has created a challenge for us as it relates to the schedule. we understand that this is a difficult, difficult time. we need to work together to put in place pro-growth and economic policies. i think, as i said in my opening remarks, there is a bipartisan way to do that. commend the president for his proposal to lower the corporate tax rate. real tax reform -- this can be done in a bipartisan way. real entitlement reform does not hurt our fellow americans. that is something that can be done in a responsible way. i will simply say that this is not a perfect process, but it is the end of the session -- the process is going on right now to deal with a tough situation. we do not want afro-americans to be hurting, especially at this time of year -- we do not want our fellow americans to be hurting, especially at this time of year. i think we can see an agreement which will work to ensure that does not take place. mr. speaker, i urge my colleagues to support the rule, support the andrews -- underline legislation, both taxes and the e
the president from the eisenhower executive office building. the first family remains in hawaii for the christmas holiday vacation and the president returned mid-week last week and spending much of the weekend in negotiations and try to push his message and he made an appearance yesterday on nbc's "meet the press." the house remains in recess with a statement from the house republican whip kevin mccarthy who asked members to stay flexible saying that today's schedule remains fluid and members are advised to remain close to the capital. votes are possible pending action from the senate, please stay as flexible as possible. our phone lines are open so tell us what you think about all this as we approach, within 10 hours of the fiscal cliff deadline, no timetable on when votes would happen in the senate and later in the house. congress is taking up to the last second. it could be well into the evening if anything happens. you can also join the conversation on our facebook page. what is your message to washington -- forge a compromise or go over the cliff? let's get to your phone ca
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